A gas chromatograph, even a low end one, shows the constituents and ratios of atmospheric air quite nicely. Your demonstration is just dumb pseudo-science. The machine you are using is nowhere near 100% efficient at separating gasses. They are just for increasing the percentage of Oxygen in the output, not purifying. OMG, somebody help! This world is toast with all the nonsense put out there on social media these days by whoever has a nutbar notion about something.
Very interesting how you ties everything together!
From the bubbles in the sea to the firmament above 👍
Is this what makes the Dead Sea so thearaputic ? Massive amounts of salt coupled with higher atmospheric pressures around the lowest point on earth perhaps? (Alongside the higher mineral content of the water ofcourse)
Also thinking, Since water is dielectric and diamagnetic can we assume the differing amounts of humidity in different air body’s is what causes air to move and create wind?
Some basic vocab that would make the P&P easier to absorb, ha ha. "Absorb" here is a very, very important joke in this context because this Peter or Pete is not saying absorb but ADsorb.
As I always say, our most important information comes as a joke. P's failure to make the obvious joke leads to misunderstanding. Absorb means suck from. Adsorb means suck to. I wonder how many viewers watch this and have no idea what P is saying when he says adsorption. It gets WAY more complicated when you look up pressure swing absorption and find out it doesn't exist, that it's ADsorption and that creates a thin film. Ugh. Why thin film? How would that relate here? I'm trying to get to the basics here because my friend Heather is dying on an oxygen machine and people are failing to make the necessary jokes. This is a good example of how people think jokes are an irrelevant side show but in fact civilizations are judged, always, on their ability to make jokes. When Germans took themselves seriously, they mass-murdered Jews. Part of why I remain confused after a year, Jane, is things like this. People failing to perform jokes when it's a life or death situation. What's getting absorbed, what's getting adsorbed. I do understand the gist here, and it's a wonderful experiment or set of experiments. The gist is that bad scientists are producing oxygen and nitrogen and then saying they pulled those out of thin air like magicians (note important joke!) whereas in fact they're producing these gases not from air (which is just air and not something comprised of two or three things) but from fiddling with the filters. But I still don't know whether to tell Heather if that machine which gives her occasional relief is killing her.
Many a truth is told in jest, says the ancient wisdom. Nowadays people refuse that wisdom and say, no, many a truth is told in gist. Anything else is just word "play." Yet if Pete or Peter had "played" with adsorption, I might have had a better idea a year ago about all the different directions. I know that people think that if they're serious that what they say is more important (classic confusion between seriousness and importance) but to miss the obvious joke here, that scientists are pulling things out of thin air, seems to me like obfuscation.
As an English major and not an engineer, I'd need to get a notebook and make diagrams while watching P's video. One page would have what scientists say happens in the first experiment. The next page would show what happens according to P&P. Then the third page would show what scientists believe happens with the first filter change. Fourth page what P&P believe. And so on. With arrows showing directions, and words being used clearly with their meanings. ADsorption not ABsorption and so on. And phrases like "pressure swing" used in context. Google is seldom useful--I spent ten minutes asking the simple question of whether a bar is roughly equivalent to an atmosphere and all I got from google is a big maybe. I would like to know if this swinger machine is related in any way to the machine my parents had around their house when they were alive and they called what came out of it "oxygen." Is Heather's machine likely to be an "oxygen" machine? Are all these machines the same as the ones on ambulances?
If lungs are not draining well, fluid builds up. Oxygen the dehydrator, wicks up this moisture.
It will also dry up healthy alveolar and mucosa. If this was well known oxygen would be used sparingly.
And doctors do know this.
They use humidifiers with oxygen in anaesthesia and mechanical ventilation. This is specifically to counter the drying effect of oxygen.
But this is not explained to the terminally ill. Their oxygen tanks come sans moisture. They dry up inside out. Hence I say palliative care is not kind.
My reduction of the swing manufacturing of nitrogen.
Oxygen is made by drying the air and compression. So air being bubbles lose moisture and become smaller.
Then the adsorption filter adds carbon dust. Now the bubbles get to carry soot like in a fire. This prevents combustion when exposed to a hot ember or red hot iron metal.
Nitr-o-gen being named because of this simple process. Black oxygen.
Complexity is used to confuse.
THEIR deceptions are simple.
We trusted our teachers back in the schooled daze.
Thank you, I was missing those guys. The Pete guys :) I found them once and lost them. I will subscribe. I appreciate this. That was a good little experiment.
I downloaded Peter and Pete’s PDF with 100 arguments why water is not H2O. Really made me think. I like their reasoning and questioningly every unproven claim out there..
Interesting proposition that the earth is enveloped by a layer or sea of liquid oxygen that stops a rotating rocket abruptly. I recall reading that there is a lot of debris in space but this video does not seem to support that; also it seems quite a number of NASA and satelite videos show lots of white clouds but this video shows clear skies.
“Then God said, ‘Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.’ Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so.” Genesis 1:6-7.
I recalled someone’s comment about the go fast rocket, they said it was like the rocker had hit jello as it stopped spinning abruptly, hung there for a moment then started its fall.
Liquid oxygen doesn’t fit that criteria but it does reveal the colour of air and it apparently does get colder as altitude increases.
Another perspective to look at this a Felix Baumgartner’s jump from 24.2 miles
The go pro fisheye distorts the horizon line into convex and concave line. Watch when Felix is spinning and then not spinning.
I am a Believer! However I have a little bit different take for you on the Genesis account, but certainly not a definitive answer. In my former life I was a Senior Geological Technologist (been retired 26 years) for International Nickel Co. in Sudbury, ON, Canada, at that time the world's largest nickel producer. I had occasion to be the constant guide of a woman doing her PhD on subterranean trapped saline water bodies. There are very few known occurrences, but we have such a "lake" in one of our mines 2,000 feet below surface. This water is FORTY times saltier than the ocean. Could this be part of "the waters under the firmament"? And could such occurrences be the source of the ocean's salt? And could it have escaped from under the earth's crust during the Noah flood event when "the fountains of the deep" burst open? And could one such site have been the Grand Canyon in Colorado? The Colorado river starts off at the base elevation of the Colorado Plateau which tops out around 6,000 ft. above sea level, winds its way through the plateau to empty into the Gulf of Mexico... but there's no massive delta as one normally sees at the mouth of a giant river... think Amazon or Nile. How does a river cut through a plateau that is higher than its starting point? I learned this bit from articles by the Institute for Creation Research (if memory serves me).
We know so little about what we pretend to know so much about!
P.S. most folks have no idea of the pent up pressures in the earth. Sesimologists do. I have hair raising personal stories of such things, but they're not for this account. I probably should write them down someplace or they'll get buried with me!
Wonderful correlation to the firmament mentioned in the Bible! Saw the spinning start around 5:15 and he kinda hit jello as you mentioned. Interesting indeed as there seems to be a layer of something up there. Again, the video shows clear space and sky.
I don’t think Felix hit jello the balloon that took his cabin up may have been rested on it ... until anyone can go to ‘space’ and experience first hand the environment up there, THEY can tell us any old thing and get away with it.
He may have been knocked out or fainted and regained consciousness to put his arms out to stop his spin
Be interesting to watch the unedited video, the ground crew must have been in a panic for a wee minute
NASA have used artists from their beginning to tell us stories. Their low earth space missions are shot in black painted deep water pools, look up bubbles in space. Scuba divers have been spotted in the background as the astronauts are looked after and filmed by them. Science contains a lot of deception.
SpaceX, car in space, Elon obviously disgusted by the amateur production, said it all,
It’s so bad, it can’t be fake. Or something like that.
In the last year I've switched over to seeing the NASA stuff as fake. I leave all kinds of comments at various NASA fan sites but they're afraid to answer me. The videos tend to be either cartoons with high production values or, when they have to show the planet or stars, they're blurry.
Find old space books in op shops, read the text and look at the illustrations. The President's phone call ... the LIVE tv coverage as the camera pans from the moon to the ship, as the astro-naughts return home. In Australia, there is a record of people seeing a coke bottle roll across the foreground on the LIVE show. Eyes to see, will see.
Hello, Jane 333! So great to read and watch the Petes. Fascinating and amazing.
And I am sorry that I haven't finished reading the air book! I've been incredibly busy in a good way. I have the book bookmarked on my things to be done list.
Yes, I'm finding the P & P demo quite persuasive. I'm gradually working my way through. And this time I copied the link so I'll be able to find my way back.
Nothing that Jane 333 writes bears any relation to reality. Don't take her advice on anything!
Hey thanks Jayden. Your schooled daze comment is of great value to everyone reading my articles.
I expect everyone reading my articles to be a critical thinker and be capable of pondering and researching.
Mmm and capable of determining super dry stuff can’t exist inside moist stuff. Moistness being air and super dryness being oxygen and nitrogen.
The criminal class’ illusion: ‘constituents of air ‘versus the reality: ‘products of DRY air’ is busted.
You can CRY if you want too.
A gas chromatograph, even a low end one, shows the constituents and ratios of atmospheric air quite nicely. Your demonstration is just dumb pseudo-science. The machine you are using is nowhere near 100% efficient at separating gasses. They are just for increasing the percentage of Oxygen in the output, not purifying. OMG, somebody help! This world is toast with all the nonsense put out there on social media these days by whoever has a nutbar notion about something.
Very interesting how you ties everything together!
From the bubbles in the sea to the firmament above 👍
Is this what makes the Dead Sea so thearaputic ? Massive amounts of salt coupled with higher atmospheric pressures around the lowest point on earth perhaps? (Alongside the higher mineral content of the water ofcourse)
Also thinking, Since water is dielectric and diamagnetic can we assume the differing amounts of humidity in different air body’s is what causes air to move and create wind?
Some basic vocab that would make the P&P easier to absorb, ha ha. "Absorb" here is a very, very important joke in this context because this Peter or Pete is not saying absorb but ADsorb.
As I always say, our most important information comes as a joke. P's failure to make the obvious joke leads to misunderstanding. Absorb means suck from. Adsorb means suck to. I wonder how many viewers watch this and have no idea what P is saying when he says adsorption. It gets WAY more complicated when you look up pressure swing absorption and find out it doesn't exist, that it's ADsorption and that creates a thin film. Ugh. Why thin film? How would that relate here? I'm trying to get to the basics here because my friend Heather is dying on an oxygen machine and people are failing to make the necessary jokes. This is a good example of how people think jokes are an irrelevant side show but in fact civilizations are judged, always, on their ability to make jokes. When Germans took themselves seriously, they mass-murdered Jews. Part of why I remain confused after a year, Jane, is things like this. People failing to perform jokes when it's a life or death situation. What's getting absorbed, what's getting adsorbed. I do understand the gist here, and it's a wonderful experiment or set of experiments. The gist is that bad scientists are producing oxygen and nitrogen and then saying they pulled those out of thin air like magicians (note important joke!) whereas in fact they're producing these gases not from air (which is just air and not something comprised of two or three things) but from fiddling with the filters. But I still don't know whether to tell Heather if that machine which gives her occasional relief is killing her.
Many a truth is told in jest, says the ancient wisdom. Nowadays people refuse that wisdom and say, no, many a truth is told in gist. Anything else is just word "play." Yet if Pete or Peter had "played" with adsorption, I might have had a better idea a year ago about all the different directions. I know that people think that if they're serious that what they say is more important (classic confusion between seriousness and importance) but to miss the obvious joke here, that scientists are pulling things out of thin air, seems to me like obfuscation.
As an English major and not an engineer, I'd need to get a notebook and make diagrams while watching P's video. One page would have what scientists say happens in the first experiment. The next page would show what happens according to P&P. Then the third page would show what scientists believe happens with the first filter change. Fourth page what P&P believe. And so on. With arrows showing directions, and words being used clearly with their meanings. ADsorption not ABsorption and so on. And phrases like "pressure swing" used in context. Google is seldom useful--I spent ten minutes asking the simple question of whether a bar is roughly equivalent to an atmosphere and all I got from google is a big maybe. I would like to know if this swinger machine is related in any way to the machine my parents had around their house when they were alive and they called what came out of it "oxygen." Is Heather's machine likely to be an "oxygen" machine? Are all these machines the same as the ones on ambulances?
My take on oxygen and relief it provides.
If lungs are not draining well, fluid builds up. Oxygen the dehydrator, wicks up this moisture.
It will also dry up healthy alveolar and mucosa. If this was well known oxygen would be used sparingly.
And doctors do know this.
They use humidifiers with oxygen in anaesthesia and mechanical ventilation. This is specifically to counter the drying effect of oxygen.
But this is not explained to the terminally ill. Their oxygen tanks come sans moisture. They dry up inside out. Hence I say palliative care is not kind.
My reduction of the swing manufacturing of nitrogen.
Oxygen is made by drying the air and compression. So air being bubbles lose moisture and become smaller.
Then the adsorption filter adds carbon dust. Now the bubbles get to carry soot like in a fire. This prevents combustion when exposed to a hot ember or red hot iron metal.
Nitr-o-gen being named because of this simple process. Black oxygen.
Complexity is used to confuse.
THEIR deceptions are simple.
We trusted our teachers back in the schooled daze.
Now we are adult wise.
Jane, do you have a video where you talk about what you think is beyond our bubble? Is the world maybe a bubble rising through water space?
Is there any evidence the earth moves?
I get motion sickness on a boat, in a car but never experience it on solid ground.
Salt draws moisture, hence without sufficient salt in one's body, one can become dehydrated.
Thank you, I was missing those guys. The Pete guys :) I found them once and lost them. I will subscribe. I appreciate this. That was a good little experiment.
Brilliant, so nice to be reintroducing the 2Ps work to you.
I'm a little concerned. That bag once held white "bread" from Tesco.
Is there no local baker?
I downloaded Peter and Pete’s PDF with 100 arguments why water is not H2O. Really made me think. I like their reasoning and questioningly every unproven claim out there..
https://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read/930017/2/100-reasons-water-is-not-h2o/Medium,Arial,Black,White,One-and-a-Half
What sticks, is that there is no money in telling the truth, as they said towards the end of this podcast episode:
https://spotify.link/PvA5DY7mKCb
Thank you for sharing the link to their two podcasts, it’s great to hear them as guests, speak to a new audience.
This is fascinating. Did you get a response from Peter & Pete?
They said thank you, for sharing their work. Their work is to investigate their own great questions to their satisfaction and share their journey.
Interesting proposition that the earth is enveloped by a layer or sea of liquid oxygen that stops a rotating rocket abruptly. I recall reading that there is a lot of debris in space but this video does not seem to support that; also it seems quite a number of NASA and satelite videos show lots of white clouds but this video shows clear skies.
It brings to mind the bible passage
“Then God said, ‘Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.’ Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so.” Genesis 1:6-7.
I recalled someone’s comment about the go fast rocket, they said it was like the rocker had hit jello as it stopped spinning abruptly, hung there for a moment then started its fall.
Liquid oxygen doesn’t fit that criteria but it does reveal the colour of air and it apparently does get colder as altitude increases.
Another perspective to look at this a Felix Baumgartner’s jump from 24.2 miles
The go pro fisheye distorts the horizon line into convex and concave line. Watch when Felix is spinning and then not spinning.
https://youtu.be/ZyIVaZXDhho
I am a Believer! However I have a little bit different take for you on the Genesis account, but certainly not a definitive answer. In my former life I was a Senior Geological Technologist (been retired 26 years) for International Nickel Co. in Sudbury, ON, Canada, at that time the world's largest nickel producer. I had occasion to be the constant guide of a woman doing her PhD on subterranean trapped saline water bodies. There are very few known occurrences, but we have such a "lake" in one of our mines 2,000 feet below surface. This water is FORTY times saltier than the ocean. Could this be part of "the waters under the firmament"? And could such occurrences be the source of the ocean's salt? And could it have escaped from under the earth's crust during the Noah flood event when "the fountains of the deep" burst open? And could one such site have been the Grand Canyon in Colorado? The Colorado river starts off at the base elevation of the Colorado Plateau which tops out around 6,000 ft. above sea level, winds its way through the plateau to empty into the Gulf of Mexico... but there's no massive delta as one normally sees at the mouth of a giant river... think Amazon or Nile. How does a river cut through a plateau that is higher than its starting point? I learned this bit from articles by the Institute for Creation Research (if memory serves me).
We know so little about what we pretend to know so much about!
P.S. most folks have no idea of the pent up pressures in the earth. Sesimologists do. I have hair raising personal stories of such things, but they're not for this account. I probably should write them down someplace or they'll get buried with me!
Wonderful correlation to the firmament mentioned in the Bible! Saw the spinning start around 5:15 and he kinda hit jello as you mentioned. Interesting indeed as there seems to be a layer of something up there. Again, the video shows clear space and sky.
I don’t think Felix hit jello the balloon that took his cabin up may have been rested on it ... until anyone can go to ‘space’ and experience first hand the environment up there, THEY can tell us any old thing and get away with it.
He may have been knocked out or fainted and regained consciousness to put his arms out to stop his spin
Be interesting to watch the unedited video, the ground crew must have been in a panic for a wee minute
NASA have used artists from their beginning to tell us stories. Their low earth space missions are shot in black painted deep water pools, look up bubbles in space. Scuba divers have been spotted in the background as the astronauts are looked after and filmed by them. Science contains a lot of deception.
SpaceX, car in space, Elon obviously disgusted by the amateur production, said it all,
It’s so bad, it can’t be fake. Or something like that.
In the last year I've switched over to seeing the NASA stuff as fake. I leave all kinds of comments at various NASA fan sites but they're afraid to answer me. The videos tend to be either cartoons with high production values or, when they have to show the planet or stars, they're blurry.
Find old space books in op shops, read the text and look at the illustrations. The President's phone call ... the LIVE tv coverage as the camera pans from the moon to the ship, as the astro-naughts return home. In Australia, there is a record of people seeing a coke bottle roll across the foreground on the LIVE show. Eyes to see, will see.
Astronaut’s almost drown on space walks, they can’t get their helmets off or move quickly to get themselves out of danger in the pool
https://youtu.be/K_eARarFLb8
Bubbles in space has been cleaned from YouTube but Rumble has copies
https://rumble.com/vila7b-bubbles-in-space-2.html
Hello, Jane 333! So great to read and watch the Petes. Fascinating and amazing.
And I am sorry that I haven't finished reading the air book! I've been incredibly busy in a good way. I have the book bookmarked on my things to be done list.
All the best.
Yes, I'm finding the P & P demo quite persuasive. I'm gradually working my way through. And this time I copied the link so I'll be able to find my way back.
I wrote that fifteen months ago. I'm gradually understanding the Jane method and have not yet encountered anything to disprove it. --david
I'm glad you are looking at the evidence and making your own value judgment. Due diligence is a rare skill.
This time I embedded the links for everyone in the article - I should do the same in my first article …