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Greg's's avatar

Which part of atomic theory is fraud and which parts hold grains of truth ie largely successful grand deception of it...again on your side to better prove your theory so it's quicker ,more deeply understood..answering this question likely has a short generality answer as well as more meticulously explained multi levels..perhaps make examples of a few substances side by side so we can see how would translate to whole...

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Jane 333's avatar

My investigation is theoretical based on my intuition and logic.

I've deduced the smallest particle is much more likely to be a bubble.

Matter is the name of the smallest material.

I contend this is likely an inversion. M in Phoenician signified water.

So water is the smallest particle and its fractal structure is a bubble.

The establishment has constructed science so our understanding is mis-directed.

Compounds and alloys are named elements and metals.

The manufacturing process reveals the ingredients that go into the product, it's never a purification process, but additive.

Water being the great decomposer, reveals the parts of the pseudo 'elements' as it reclaims/recycles man's products.

Oxygen gas is an attempt to remove water/moisture to preserve their products.

Liquid oxygen reveals, water can't be removed. The parts per million of moisture in air bubbles combine once more into a drops and the sky blue colour of air/sky is seen.

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Greg's's avatar

Ok I get science , history, spirituality, geography, space, every aspect of life is twisted or inverted by them and it angers good God,Christ , angels,decent relatively imperfect people and we are at war,needing to represent the better path of life with some virtues vibing to hold things together in true light against their goal, doom darkness eating us up on the way out..never cared for the color black!Did you know graphene ink is the blackest thing detected in the universes at like 99.999% no light refraction so when you shine a laser into a thin piece of binder paper it vanishes without any scatter to sides, a true portal ,similar to witches black mirrors of ancient allowing portalling...where's it going and who,what is back there at this non light frequency tie in to abyss/demons lairs!? Our black screens are worrisome hence...they may be more organized,restrained for tight moment attacks then your avg haunted house crazed demon/ghost at certain matrix for purpose levels...

I digressed bit too far,I will try to look for ways to more concisely restate aspects of your theory where it's possible outside semi esoteric stuff like nitrogen measurements in artificial air etc.

That one video experiment is helpful to this end with the flame etc but more needs to be done to convince avg skeptic and hopefully get theory to the point where it's stateabke in under a half page so it is self evidently true,intuition is great for finding doors and opening bit..but we all need to get to thru that care here so again it's evidence outside of intuition that now counts more!

Which top 3-6 of your responders or just agreer's of theory can you send me names of to research their good back up stuff..please

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Jane 333's avatar

Check out Pete and Peter’s YouTube channel. That’s where I started out from. Resource:100 reasons water is not H2O by Peter Peterson, available at Smashwords as a free ebook.

Dr James DiNicolanto wrote the salt fix.

The bubble fractal structure of air/water is my theory, logic and divine guidance/intuition.

The idea oxygen and nitrogen make up 99% of air is completely debunked with the knowledge these two gases have zero humidity.

I imagine they came up with the idea oxygen and nitrogen are natural components of air after being caught out killing some innocents. And they made up a story on the spot to get away with murder/manslaughter.

The orchestrators lie, and add patches when their lies fail to explain or are found to be obviously false. They have been well protected from scrutiny and anyone looking to close was simply distracted or disposed of.

Please quote and reference my articles/notes.

I have written a lot of notes to introduce the concepts in my articles.

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Greg's's avatar

Ok thanks this last reply clarifies alot.So if not H20 what is your elemental abreviation thing for air? The point of zero humidity in air is clarifying as we know their must be...I vaguely recall seeing no or next to none humidity in weather casts...possibly they do that to back deception...but logically seems as you say always some moisture in air ...maybe we should search desert it hight mtn weather forecasts and verify range here seen ti see if deception extends here.Do we have evidence of them providing oxygen cannisters with zero moisture or would that burn lungs,?seems even low oxygen would burn or dry out lungs etc...

Perhaps create a top 10 list of proofs like this as your test them so people can graso concept faster ,better.

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Greg's's avatar

Is their fraud and degrees of truth in DNA RNA theory and practice?

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Jane 333's avatar

Very likely because it was introduced by via the Nobel prize ceremony.

The sciences are controlled and curated. No debate determines whether a new theory has merit. The new concept is lauded by the controllers and handed to us complete, no objectors competing for air time.

We’ve been living in a no debate society for hundreds of years, cv19 just bought it to the centre of our attention.

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Greg's's avatar

Seems to me there should be evidence to support your theory Jane in artificial air/oxygen that must support alone long periods as in scuba gear and submarines.Have you been able to correlate there?If you are correct on theory you may also find subterfuge there in them trying to hide true mixtures or adding nitrogen at much less a % then claimed otherwise if I understand it the nitrogen added if any or too high might prove fatal. I suspect it gets more complex then just that though...

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Jane 333's avatar

Reading patents for rebreathing scrubbers for divers is interesting. I haven’t worked out all the nuances of deep sea breathing tanks. But I know how the bends works. It’s the pressure energy change: giving water in the blood energy that makes drops become air bubbles.

Water given energy gives up air bubbles.

Nothing to do with nitrogen gas in the blood.

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Greg's's avatar

Jane,if that's so about the nitrogen then likely scuba and submarine air mixtures is where your proof lies...I'm betting on you cuz of your vibe and few dots lining up that really shouldn't be there seems but I confess I've not studied this area to bet the farm on anything yet,please forgive me for not being smart enuff to instantly know here what is exact truth of air issue you present.

Anyway if I understand enough of this right there shouldn't be any nitrogen in the scuba mix as it's not ideally matching natural air..If there is nitrogen in mix it's likely a token amount with lame untrue excuses as to why not more is one possibility off the bat...and likely a history of development that is shakey on nitrogen issue where some developers are playing along ,others not so much..Jock Cousteau seemed to have integrity but was also openly in favor of population control to save the seas from pollution and plankton destruction effecting issues like oxygen/air production (hello!). Submarine tech likely is still a bit classified but open air breathing there may tell more then 45 minute-2 hour scuba where nitrogen could be tolerated as a unnecessary poison at low doses..You'd likely have a situation where nitrogen is claimed to be added to subs but isn't and there'd be signs of serious inexplicable uneveness there in various subs and countries ie Russians,least tied to elites? of Europe tend to have very different medical devices that work better that are kept from us even now..

Anyway if your right these are avenues to tighten it up..does this cover up tie into flat earth realm or dome bubble above theory?

Does this tie into how we should perceive the balance of nature or spiritual connection s? What's the connection to the larger picture (or smaller specifics their trying to hide)..I don't quite grasp all this..

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Jane 333's avatar

The submarine artificial atmosphere will likely be a good study, I’ve not looked at those patents.

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Greg's's avatar

Yes but you didn't explain why these alchemists or culty elite scientists went to so much trouble to deceive the world.What greater still power or secret are they protecting with this broken formula this way off mathmatucal as well figure? Perhaps having to do with giant balloons to stop opponents from getting above them with weaponry or submarine tech sabotage or how our environment or air is simpler,safer then we've been told and extends further,what were they hiding if you have to guess!?

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Jane 333's avatar

Energy is held in the states of water. Air being a higher energy state than water. The fractal structure is the bubble. The atomic theory is fraud but they hint at the bubble by using spheres in their model.

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Greg's's avatar

Are you thinking in the macro effect of this extending to alleged flat earth bubble/dome above us?

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Ian luce's avatar

That's annoying as I was wondering if I could connect my concentrator what I use for welding to my Tig torch for a shield not as though nitrogen would work but it would be contaminated with oxygen, just wish there was a cheaper alternative to argon or helium

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Jane 333's avatar

Nitrogen is a product of oxygen.

Just like oxygen is a product of air.

All the 1% gases are likely products of oxygen and hydrogen with different materials added to get the effects desired.

The elemental’ table is a product table.

Look at patents for both argon and helium. It’s where clues can be found as to what they add and remove.

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jaydan's avatar

Nothing that Jane 333 writes bears any relation to reality. Don't take her advice on anything!

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Greg's's avatar

If you can't put into concise words why she's wrong your a shill whining and we all will accept your clarified failure here or please do give it your best shot:

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Jane 333's avatar

Hey thanks Jayden. Your schooled daze comment is of great value to everyone reading my articles.

I expect everyone reading my articles to be a critical thinker and be capable of pondering and researching.

Mmm and capable of determining super dry stuff can’t exist inside moist stuff. Moistness being air and super dryness being oxygen and nitrogen.

The criminal class’ illusion: ‘constituents of air ‘versus the reality: ‘products of DRY air’ is busted.

You can CRY if you want too.

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Broke Erland's avatar

A gas chromatograph, even a low end one, shows the constituents and ratios of atmospheric air quite nicely. Your demonstration is just dumb pseudo-science. The machine you are using is nowhere near 100% efficient at separating gasses. They are just for increasing the percentage of Oxygen in the output, not purifying. OMG, somebody help! This world is toast with all the nonsense put out there on social media these days by whoever has a nutbar notion about something.

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Taraq batsh's avatar

Very interesting how you ties everything together!

From the bubbles in the sea to the firmament above 👍

Is this what makes the Dead Sea so thearaputic ? Massive amounts of salt coupled with higher atmospheric pressures around the lowest point on earth perhaps? (Alongside the higher mineral content of the water ofcourse)

Also thinking, Since water is dielectric and diamagnetic can we assume the differing amounts of humidity in different air body’s is what causes air to move and create wind?

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Dr. David Thor's avatar

Some basic vocab that would make the P&P easier to absorb, ha ha. "Absorb" here is a very, very important joke in this context because this Peter or Pete is not saying absorb but ADsorb.

As I always say, our most important information comes as a joke. P's failure to make the obvious joke leads to misunderstanding. Absorb means suck from. Adsorb means suck to. I wonder how many viewers watch this and have no idea what P is saying when he says adsorption. It gets WAY more complicated when you look up pressure swing absorption and find out it doesn't exist, that it's ADsorption and that creates a thin film. Ugh. Why thin film? How would that relate here? I'm trying to get to the basics here because my friend Heather is dying on an oxygen machine and people are failing to make the necessary jokes. This is a good example of how people think jokes are an irrelevant side show but in fact civilizations are judged, always, on their ability to make jokes. When Germans took themselves seriously, they mass-murdered Jews. Part of why I remain confused after a year, Jane, is things like this. People failing to perform jokes when it's a life or death situation. What's getting absorbed, what's getting adsorbed. I do understand the gist here, and it's a wonderful experiment or set of experiments. The gist is that bad scientists are producing oxygen and nitrogen and then saying they pulled those out of thin air like magicians (note important joke!) whereas in fact they're producing these gases not from air (which is just air and not something comprised of two or three things) but from fiddling with the filters. But I still don't know whether to tell Heather if that machine which gives her occasional relief is killing her.

Many a truth is told in jest, says the ancient wisdom. Nowadays people refuse that wisdom and say, no, many a truth is told in gist. Anything else is just word "play." Yet if Pete or Peter had "played" with adsorption, I might have had a better idea a year ago about all the different directions. I know that people think that if they're serious that what they say is more important (classic confusion between seriousness and importance) but to miss the obvious joke here, that scientists are pulling things out of thin air, seems to me like obfuscation.

As an English major and not an engineer, I'd need to get a notebook and make diagrams while watching P's video. One page would have what scientists say happens in the first experiment. The next page would show what happens according to P&P. Then the third page would show what scientists believe happens with the first filter change. Fourth page what P&P believe. And so on. With arrows showing directions, and words being used clearly with their meanings. ADsorption not ABsorption and so on. And phrases like "pressure swing" used in context. Google is seldom useful--I spent ten minutes asking the simple question of whether a bar is roughly equivalent to an atmosphere and all I got from google is a big maybe. I would like to know if this swinger machine is related in any way to the machine my parents had around their house when they were alive and they called what came out of it "oxygen." Is Heather's machine likely to be an "oxygen" machine? Are all these machines the same as the ones on ambulances?

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Jane 333's avatar

My take on oxygen and relief it provides.

If lungs are not draining well, fluid builds up. Oxygen the dehydrator, wicks up this moisture.

It will also dry up healthy alveolar and mucosa. If this was well known oxygen would be used sparingly.

And doctors do know this.

They use humidifiers with oxygen in anaesthesia and mechanical ventilation. This is specifically to counter the drying effect of oxygen.

But this is not explained to the terminally ill. Their oxygen tanks come sans moisture. They dry up inside out. Hence I say palliative care is not kind.

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Jane 333's avatar

My reduction of the swing manufacturing of nitrogen.

Oxygen is made by drying the air and compression. So air being bubbles lose moisture and become smaller.

Then the adsorption filter adds carbon dust. Now the bubbles get to carry soot like in a fire. This prevents combustion when exposed to a hot ember or red hot iron metal.

Nitr-o-gen being named because of this simple process. Black oxygen.

Complexity is used to confuse.

THEIR deceptions are simple.

We trusted our teachers back in the schooled daze.

Now we are adult wise.

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Dr. David Thor's avatar

Jane, do you have a video where you talk about what you think is beyond our bubble? Is the world maybe a bubble rising through water space?

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Jane 333's avatar

Is there any evidence the earth moves?

I get motion sickness on a boat, in a car but never experience it on solid ground.

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Neil Rivalland's avatar

Salt draws moisture, hence without sufficient salt in one's body, one can become dehydrated.

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Richard Seager's avatar

I'm a little concerned. That bag once held white "bread" from Tesco.

Is there no local baker?

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T Jacobsen's avatar

I downloaded Peter and Pete’s PDF with 100 arguments why water is not H2O. Really made me think. I like their reasoning and questioningly every unproven claim out there..

https://www.smashwords.com/extreader/read/930017/2/100-reasons-water-is-not-h2o/Medium,Arial,Black,White,One-and-a-Half

What sticks, is that there is no money in telling the truth, as they said towards the end of this podcast episode:

https://spotify.link/PvA5DY7mKCb

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Jane 333's avatar

Thank you for sharing the link to their two podcasts, it’s great to hear them as guests, speak to a new audience.

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T Jacobsen's avatar

This is fascinating. Did you get a response from Peter & Pete?

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Jane 333's avatar

They said thank you, for sharing their work. Their work is to investigate their own great questions to their satisfaction and share their journey.

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deputt's avatar

Interesting proposition that the earth is enveloped by a layer or sea of liquid oxygen that stops a rotating rocket abruptly. I recall reading that there is a lot of debris in space but this video does not seem to support that; also it seems quite a number of NASA and satelite videos show lots of white clouds but this video shows clear skies.

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Jane 333's avatar

It brings to mind the bible passage

“Then God said, ‘Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.’ Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so.” Genesis 1:6-7.

I recalled someone’s comment about the go fast rocket, they said it was like the rocker had hit jello as it stopped spinning abruptly, hung there for a moment then started its fall.

Liquid oxygen doesn’t fit that criteria but it does reveal the colour of air and it apparently does get colder as altitude increases.

Another perspective to look at this a Felix Baumgartner’s jump from 24.2 miles

The go pro fisheye distorts the horizon line into convex and concave line. Watch when Felix is spinning and then not spinning.

https://youtu.be/ZyIVaZXDhho

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Garth Wunsch's avatar

I am a Believer! However I have a little bit different take for you on the Genesis account, but certainly not a definitive answer. In my former life I was a Senior Geological Technologist (been retired 26 years) for International Nickel Co. in Sudbury, ON, Canada, at that time the world's largest nickel producer. I had occasion to be the constant guide of a woman doing her PhD on subterranean trapped saline water bodies. There are very few known occurrences, but we have such a "lake" in one of our mines 2,000 feet below surface. This water is FORTY times saltier than the ocean. Could this be part of "the waters under the firmament"? And could such occurrences be the source of the ocean's salt? And could it have escaped from under the earth's crust during the Noah flood event when "the fountains of the deep" burst open? And could one such site have been the Grand Canyon in Colorado? The Colorado river starts off at the base elevation of the Colorado Plateau which tops out around 6,000 ft. above sea level, winds its way through the plateau to empty into the Gulf of Mexico... but there's no massive delta as one normally sees at the mouth of a giant river... think Amazon or Nile. How does a river cut through a plateau that is higher than its starting point? I learned this bit from articles by the Institute for Creation Research (if memory serves me).

We know so little about what we pretend to know so much about!

P.S. most folks have no idea of the pent up pressures in the earth. Sesimologists do. I have hair raising personal stories of such things, but they're not for this account. I probably should write them down someplace or they'll get buried with me!

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deputt's avatar

Wonderful correlation to the firmament mentioned in the Bible! Saw the spinning start around 5:15 and he kinda hit jello as you mentioned. Interesting indeed as there seems to be a layer of something up there. Again, the video shows clear space and sky.

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Jane 333's avatar

I don’t think Felix hit jello the balloon that took his cabin up may have been rested on it ... until anyone can go to ‘space’ and experience first hand the environment up there, THEY can tell us any old thing and get away with it.

He may have been knocked out or fainted and regained consciousness to put his arms out to stop his spin

Be interesting to watch the unedited video, the ground crew must have been in a panic for a wee minute

NASA have used artists from their beginning to tell us stories. Their low earth space missions are shot in black painted deep water pools, look up bubbles in space. Scuba divers have been spotted in the background as the astronauts are looked after and filmed by them. Science contains a lot of deception.

SpaceX, car in space, Elon obviously disgusted by the amateur production, said it all,

It’s so bad, it can’t be fake. Or something like that.

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Dr. David Thor's avatar

In the last year I've switched over to seeing the NASA stuff as fake. I leave all kinds of comments at various NASA fan sites but they're afraid to answer me. The videos tend to be either cartoons with high production values or, when they have to show the planet or stars, they're blurry.

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Jane 333's avatar

Find old space books in op shops, read the text and look at the illustrations. The President's phone call ... the LIVE tv coverage as the camera pans from the moon to the ship, as the astro-naughts return home. In Australia, there is a record of people seeing a coke bottle roll across the foreground on the LIVE show. Eyes to see, will see.

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JRCCreasey's avatar

But WHY COKE?!?

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Jane 333's avatar

Astronaut’s almost drown on space walks, they can’t get their helmets off or move quickly to get themselves out of danger in the pool

https://youtu.be/K_eARarFLb8

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Jane 333's avatar

Bubbles in space has been cleaned from YouTube but Rumble has copies

https://rumble.com/vila7b-bubbles-in-space-2.html

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Guy Duperreault's avatar

Hello, Jane 333! So great to read and watch the Petes. Fascinating and amazing.

And I am sorry that I haven't finished reading the air book! I've been incredibly busy in a good way. I have the book bookmarked on my things to be done list.

All the best.

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Dr. David Thor's avatar

Yes, I'm finding the P & P demo quite persuasive. I'm gradually working my way through. And this time I copied the link so I'll be able to find my way back.

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Dr. David Thor's avatar

I wrote that fifteen months ago. I'm gradually understanding the Jane method and have not yet encountered anything to disprove it. --david

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Jane 333's avatar

I'm glad you are looking at the evidence and making your own value judgment. Due diligence is a rare skill.

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Jane 333's avatar

This time I embedded the links for everyone in the article - I should do the same in my first article …

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